{"id":6839,"date":"2024-12-17T05:32:02","date_gmt":"2024-12-17T05:32:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/?p=6839"},"modified":"2024-12-31T11:19:03","modified_gmt":"2024-12-31T11:19:03","slug":"qualcomm-vs-arm-trial-day-1-opening-statements-and-surprising-revelations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/qualcomm-vs-arm-trial-day-1-opening-statements-and-surprising-revelations\/","title":{"rendered":"Qualcomm vs. Arm trial, Day 1 \u2013 Opening statements and surprising revelations"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row fullwidth=&#8221;yes&#8221;][vc_column][vc_column_text]<\/p>\n<h5><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-6855 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/241217_Arm_vs_Qualcomm_Day-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/241217_Arm_vs_Qualcomm_Day-1.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/241217_Arm_vs_Qualcomm_Day-1-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Background<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h5>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Qualcomm is one of the largest customers of Arm. However, ever since Qualcomm announced that it is acquiring Nuvia, the two companies have been at odds regarding their license contracts, culminating in today\u2019s court trail. Today was the first day of this jury trial.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Check out my <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/article-series\/#:~:text=what%20is%20needed-,Qualcomm%20vs.%20Arm,-Part%201%3A%20Qualcomm\">article series<\/a><\/span> on the details of the fight between the two companies for more details.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h5><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Summary of Day 1<\/strong><\/span><\/h5>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">On the first day, both companies fired their first salvos through opening statements and testimonies and tried to set the narrative for the other party. Arm is trying to convince the jury that Qualcomm acquired Nuvia to save on license costs. It knows that it needs a new license to use Nuvia technology, but it doesn\u2019t want to negotiate with Arm. They tried to negotiate with Qualcomm, but since they couldn\u2019t agree on new terms, they had no other choice than to sue.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">On the other hand, Qualcomm is trying to project that it acquired Nuvia because Arm was falling behind on performance, and its current ALA with Arm covers Nuvia technology. Additionally, Arm is trying to ask for higher licensing fees to cater to the demand of its parent company, SoftBank, to increase its revenue.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">In my view, Arm\u2019s opening statement was simple and told a complete story. It presented with a soft, almost victim-like demeanor. Qualcomm\u2019s statement was more assertive and included many strong facts (e.g., Arm internal communications saying Qualcomm has \u201cBombproof\u201d ALA).<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Testimonials were quite informative and revealed many interesting facts, some rumored and others unknown (e.g. Arm considered a fully vertically integrated approach). Arm\u2019s first testimony was bungled during cross-examination, the second was neutral, and the last one was powerful.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">The day started balanced, swung toward Qualcomm, and ended with a neutral\/slight advantage to Qualcomm.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Come back tomorrow for the second day\u2019s update.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h5><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Highlights of Day 1 :<\/strong><\/span><\/h5>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">The first day started with pretrial discussions, opening statements from both companies and testimonies from Plaintiff Arm. Today&#8217;s witnesses were Arm Chief Commercial Officer Will Abbey, SVP Paul Williamson, and CEO Rene Haas, in that order. Key points of the Arm opening statement<\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Arm gave a deeply discounted licensing model to Nuvia, expecting to benefit when the company is acquired. The contract clearly states that the acquisition needs approval from Arm to assign its license to the new company.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">It used a metaphor of piano keys to explain its licensing model \u2013 its tech tells what note keys should play, and it doesn\u2019t matter how big the keys look, what music they create, etc.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Claimed that Qualcomm bought Nuvia to reduce its cost because the royalty rate for an Architecture License Agreement (ALA) is much lower than a Technology License Agreement (TLA). Showed a Qualcomm email claiming about $1.4B annually<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Replied to one of Qualcomm\u2019s claims that since Arm specifications are openly available on their website, hence not confidential, by saying license to use them.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h5><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Key points of the Qualcomm opening statement<\/strong><\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Qualcomm reiterated it doesn\u2019t need Nuvia ALA, as its own ALA with Arm covers Nuvia technology. Shared a lot of Arm\u2019s internal emails\/messages to show it also understood this, but sued Qualcomm to increase its revenue (Qualcomm has a \u201cbombproof\u201d license).<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Used a metaphor of home to explain its view of licensing \u2013 the specification of doors, windows, etc, is similar to Arm license, but Qualcomm still needs to build the home, which is significant work and innovation. Developing the underlying RTL and creating processes is akin to this.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Said Qualcomm had to buy Nuvia as Arm was falling behind in performance<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Arm&#8217;s deal made Qualcomm licensing 100-400% more expensive and included conditions like Nuvia engineers not working on new architecture design for 3 years, etc.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Showed a lot of Arm internal communication regarding how the change in Arm management \/ownership pushed it to go hard against Qualcomm<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h5><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Key Points from the testimonies:<\/strong><\/span><\/h5>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>Will Abbey<\/strong><\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Long-time Arm executive, was responsible for Nuvia and Qualcomm relationship<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Reiterated Arm\u2019s stance, said this is the first and the only time Arm is suing a customer in its entire history, and the only instance when the license was terminated (Nuvia)<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Said Qualcomm requested, and Arm assigned licenses when the former acquired CSR and Atheros. These were TLA, whereas Nuvia had ALA<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Documents revealed Qualcomm ALA\/TLA licensing rates:<\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">ALA &#8211; 1.1% \/ $0.58<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">TLA &#8211; 5.3% \/ $2.2<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Surprised that Nuvia executives were never present in any negotiations after the acquisition<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">During cross-examination, Qualcomm&#8217;s lawyer pointed out many inconsistencies between his statements during the sworn deposition and today\u2019s statement (e.g., during the deposition, Will had said Nuvia had canceled its license but said Arm canceled it now). For that, he had to explain that he didn\u2019t prepare well for the deposition, and preparation for the testimony \u201ctriggered\u201d more memories. However, the deposition was almost one year closer to the actual events than today\u2019s testimony.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>Paul Williamson<\/strong><\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Currently leads IoT business but was responsible for mobile business during the Nuvia acquisition<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Reiterated many of Arm\u2019s stances and things expressed by Will, such as CSR, Atheros assignment, and others<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">During cross-examination, many Arms internal emails\/messages about what Qualcomm ALA covers were revealed. One key exchange was between him and Arm\u2019s licensing person, where the latter opined Qualcomm ALA covered Nuvia technology<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Discussion revealed Qualcomm ALA is valid till 2028, with an option to extend for five more years with a $1M\/year fee<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Arm offered a new deal to Qualcomm, called the \u201cTC model,\u201d which had total processor licensing (CPU, GPU, &amp; others) for ~500% higher licensing price<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Arm sent letters to its (and Qualcomm\u2019s) customers and PC OEMs about Qualcomm working products for which Arm canceled licenses.<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>Rene Haas<\/strong><\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">This was probably the longest and most consequential testimony.<\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">11 years at Arm, 35 years in the Semiconductor industry<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">He said, since he authorized the litigation, he felt he had to come to the testimony<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Talked about impressive Arm growth, which really took off in 2013. Highlighted looking to add more value and increase revenue<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Shared slide on how Arm is looking to outperform Nuvia with Black Hawk (Cortex X925)<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Cross-examination was full of discussion around tons of Arm internal communications<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Lots of messages and emails on how Qualcomm (and another player, most likely Apple\u2019s) ALA rates are low and need to be unwound to increase Arm revenue<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">The final offer to Qualcomm was a one-time $123M assignment fee, the current ALA for mobile, and different rates for Compute, Auto, and others, which was rejected<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Disagreed with previous CEO\u2019s \u201cfinding middle ground with Qualcomm\u201d approach<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Discussions with SoftBank\u2019s (which owns 90% of Arm) Masayoshi Son to keep the pressure up with Qualcomm, and overall increase in Arm revenue<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Arm only has between 5 \u2013 10 ALA customers<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Some of Arm\u2019s disclosures to the UK government during the Nvidia acquisition were not consistent with its positions elsewhere, and Rene had to explain the reasons (mostly timing)<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Arm considered fully vertical model, making its own processor products. Even joked about how that would blow everybody else<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Also suggested collaborated vertical integration with Samsung LSI for Samsung devices<\/span><\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row]<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[vc_row fullwidth=&#8221;yes&#8221;][vc_column][vc_column_text] Background Qualcomm is one of the largest customers of Arm. However, ever since Qualcomm announced that it is acquiring Nuvia, the two companies have been at odds regarding their license contracts, culminating in today\u2019s court trail. Today was the first day of this jury trial. 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