{"id":7989,"date":"2026-08-10T07:05:32","date_gmt":"2026-08-10T07:05:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/?page_id=7989"},"modified":"2026-08-24T07:22:20","modified_gmt":"2026-08-24T07:22:20","slug":"tantras-mantra-podcast-episode-72","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/podcast\/tantras-mantra-podcast-episode-72\/","title":{"rendered":"Tantra&#8217;s Mantra Podcast &#8211; Episode 72"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row fullwidth=&#8221;yes&#8221; css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1655705755086{background-position: center !important;background-repeat: no-repeat !important;background-size: cover !important;}&#8221;][vc_column][vc_row_inner css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1656333669175{padding-right: 110px !important;padding-left: 110px !important;background-image: url(https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Podcast_Background_02_TantraAnalyst-1.jpg?id=4022) !important;background-position: center !important;background-repeat: no-repeat !important;background-size: cover !important;}&#8221;][vc_column_inner width=&#8221;1\/2&#8243;][vc_empty_space height=&#8221;20px&#8221;][vc_video link=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KyBygo_sBcM&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; css=&#8221;{&#8220;margin-bottom&#8220;:&#8220;35px&#8220;}&#8221;][vc_empty_space height=&#8221;20px&#8221;][\/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner width=&#8221;1\/2&#8243;][vc_empty_space height=&#8221;20px&#8221;][vc_column_text css=&#8221;{&#8220;margin-bottom&#8220;:&#8220;35px&#8220;}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h6 style=\"font-size: 25px; line-height: 0.0; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>Episode 72:<\/strong><\/span><\/h6>\n<h1 style=\"color: black; font-size: 40px; text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KyBygo_sBcM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Is OpenAI Trying to Fight Apple in Public Square?<\/span><\/a><\/h1>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Date: Aug 09, 2026<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6 style=\"color: grey; font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.5; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\">In Apple&#8217;s high-profile case against OpenAI, the latter went on a public offensive. 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Intro<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">02:40 &#8211; Guest intro (Christie Thoene)<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">03:15 &#8211; OpenAI&#8217;s strategy to publicly respond to Apple&#8217;s allegations before court filing, and Apple&#8217;s initial misstep (company&#8217;s #blog and MSNBC)<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">07:11 &#8211; Apple&#8217;s request for &#8220;preliminary #injunction&#8221; against OpenAI to stop working on the disputed products\/services and OpenAI&#8217;s request for &#8220;motion to dismiss&#8221; the case because of lack of merit<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">09:20 &#8211; What OpenAI&#8217;s comms team might be thinking now, and what would be their short-term goals; Quickly set the narrative in their favor, and make the case a public spectacle<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">11:31 &#8211; What Apple&#8217;s comms team might be thinking now, and what would be their short-term goals; Not fight it in the public square, don&#8217;t be perceived as a &#8220;large company&#8221; trying to quell innovation; making sure the #brand is not affected<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">16:33 &#8211; Does the public posturing affect the case? Time is on Apple&#8217;s side, whereas OpenAI would like to quickly close this case so that it doesn&#8217;t affect their product &amp; IPO plans<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">19:47 &#8211; How the public discourse affects the judge, potential jury, and Apple&#8217;s current and potential new partners<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">22:00 &#8211; Will public opinion affect the legal positioning of both companies?<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">25:26 &#8211; Next steps: 1) OpenAI&#8217;s legal reply to court (Aug 2026); 2) Judge&#8217;s decision on the injunction and #motiontodismiss requests (Oct 2026)<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">27:22 &#8211; Closing<\/span><\/h6>\n<p>[\/vc_column_text][vc_separator color=&#8221;blue&#8221; style=&#8221;shadow&#8221; border_width=&#8221;2&#8243; el_width=&#8221;50&#8243;][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]<\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\">\u00a0If you want to read more articles like this and get an up-to-date analysis of the latest mobile and tech industry news, sign-up for our monthly newsletter at\u00a0<a style=\"color: #808080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/newsletters\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">TantraAnalyst.com\/Newsletter<\/span><\/a>, or Read our <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/insights\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tantra Analyst Insights Articles<\/a>.<\/span><\/span><\/h6>\n<p>[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row]<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[vc_row fullwidth=&#8221;yes&#8221; css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1655705755086{background-position: center !important;background-repeat: no-repeat !important;background-size: cover !important;}&#8221;][vc_column][vc_row_inner css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1656333669175{padding-right: 110px !important;padding-left: 110px !important;background-image: url(https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Podcast_Background_02_TantraAnalyst-1.jpg?id=4022) !important;background-position: center !important;background-repeat: no-repeat !important;background-size: cover !important;}&#8221;][vc_column_inner width=&#8221;1\/2&#8243;][vc_empty_space height=&#8221;20px&#8221;][vc_video link=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KyBygo_sBcM&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; css=&#8221;{&#8220;margin-bottom&#8220;:&#8220;35px&#8220;}&#8221;][vc_empty_space height=&#8221;20px&#8221;][\/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner width=&#8221;1\/2&#8243;][vc_empty_space height=&#8221;20px&#8221;][vc_column_text css=&#8221;{&#8220;margin-bottom&#8220;:&#8220;35px&#8220;}&#8221;] Episode 72: Is OpenAI Trying to Fight Apple in Public Square? 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