{"id":7616,"date":"2025-12-08T09:33:06","date_gmt":"2025-12-08T09:33:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/?page_id=7616"},"modified":"2026-04-20T15:20:56","modified_gmt":"2026-04-20T15:20:56","slug":"tantras-mantra-podcast-episode-65","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/podcast\/tantras-mantra-podcast-episode-65\/","title":{"rendered":"Tantra&#8217;s Mantra Podcast &#8211; Episode 65"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row fullwidth=&#8221;yes&#8221; css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1655705755086{background-position: center !important;background-repeat: no-repeat !important;background-size: cover !important;}&#8221;][vc_column][vc_row_inner css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1656333669175{padding-right: 110px !important;padding-left: 110px !important;background-image: url(https:\/\/www.tantraanalyst.com\/ta\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Podcast_Background_02_TantraAnalyst-1.jpg?id=4022) 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&#8211; The current status of use of AI in telecom, major industry focus areas &#8211; optimizing opex and capex, experience enhancement<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">09:15 &#8211; Critical role of software-based networking and virtualization in enabling AI<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">12:48 &#8211; Are legacy networks w\/o software-based networks out of luck for AI?<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">15:40 &#8211; How to decide where to run AI workload &#8211; where is the AI compute needed? <\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">19:05 &#8211; Who will develop AI models for telecom? &#8211; proprietary vs. standard, differentiation etc.<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">24:35 &#8211; Dichotomy between AI differentiation, open networking, and offering AI as a service layer<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">26:55 &#8211; Samsung&#8217;s approach to AI as a service\/software 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Might be different for more established players?<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">29:06 &#8211; Does today&#8217;s architecture (e.g., SMO) have hooks for managing AI end-to-end?<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">30:01 &#8211; Data challenge of operators for AI &#8211; different forms, formats, sources, granularity, etc. Will things like NWDAF solve it?<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">31:50 &#8211; Operator understanding of the AI challenges ahead &#8211; transforming from a hardware operator to a software management company<\/span><\/h6>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #808080;\">34:36 &#8211; Is the investment needed for AI an impediment to its adoption? 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